Prime, HELOCs and New Kitchens

By Galia Gichon Wednesday July 22, 2009
This post is about spending, vocab

Today's post was authored by Galia Gichon of Down-to-Earth Finance with support from Kathy Ivens of CPA911.com.

learnYou're feeling more secure about your job, so you decide to renovate your outdated 1970s kitchen.  Your bank quotes you a $10,000, five-year Home Equity Line of Credit ("HELOC") loan of prime interest rate (aka "prime") 1.  Prime is 3.25% as of July 22, 2009. The prime interest rate in the U.S., which can change at any time, is set by the country's largest banks and reported by the Wall Street Journal. The rate is based on the federal funds rate that is set by the Federal Reserve. The federal funds rate is the interest rate at which banks and other depository institutions lend money to each other, almost always on an overnight basis. The federal funds rate is also used to control the supply of available funds and hence, inflation and other interest rates.

Primed
At prime minus 1, what will your monthly HELOC payment be?  Your rate to start will be 2.25% (derived from 3.25% - 1%).  The cost to you is $176 a month for the interest payment only; but remember you also have to pay off the principal and the longer that takes the more interest expense you'll have. Under these terms, as rates rise, so will your monthly payment. Is the new kitchen worth it?

Is it Worth It?
You can only answer that question with some research. What would the new kitchen add to the selling price today? More than the amount of the loan plus the interest payments? (Hint: for kitchens and bathrooms, the payback is almost always more than the cost of the improvement unless you go crazy with extremely expensive gadgets.)

Which Pot
If it's just a matter of wanting a new kitchen because it makes life easier for you, then you can disregard the resale value numbers in favor of buying yourself a better lifestyle, and that's a matter of deciding whether the increased expense is affordable and won't cause financial problems. However, if you don't care about increasing the value of your home, you should probably try to use savings instead of a Line of Credit (or use the Line of Credit for some minor percentage of the cost if your savings don't cover the cost).

The Point
A Line of Credit is a bad idea unless the point of using it is to gain back the cost of the interest through an increase in value. A Line of Credit must never be used to cover regular living expenses, or to buy something that doesn't have a financial payback down the road. Even at a low interest rate, if you use Line of Credit funds to pay regular bills or buy non-appreciating products, you're paying considerably more than the real worth of each bill payment or purchase, which is like taking the money that went into the interest payments and putting it in the barbeque grill and burning it.

Comments (8)add
Written by jess, July 22, 2009
Can you please explain/address the option of using a HELOC to pay off a mortgage more quickly? I heard a very brief mention of it (on a radio finance segment) but have not been able to get any reliable info on when this is a realistic option and how it really works. Thanks!!!
Written by Amanda (DW Founder), July 22, 2009
Jess, I've never heard of that idea, but it sounds like a good one. I will email it to DailyWorth contributors to see if anyone can answer your question. Theoretically, it's a great idea as HELOC interest rates are usually (in my case anyway) lower than mortgage payments. Don't take that to mean I am recommending that you do it -- I am sure there are angles I'm not yet seeing. Stay tuned.
Written by Kathy Ivens, July 23, 2009
Jess, there are almost no circumstances under which a HELOC should be used to pay off a mortgage more quickly. The interest rate can change daily and you can end up with a "surprise soaring" of interest, and that can wreak havoc with your budget. Worse, if the interest suddenly climbs to 10% or more (which has happened), your residence is in danger if you can't afford that interest. If you have extra income to cover interest that may soar, use that income to make interest payments on the current mortgage principal, which will pay off the mortgage more quickly, and is totally discretionary (if you have a month with no extra money, you don't have to make an extra principal payment - you can't "skip" the interest and principal payment on the HELOC).
Written by Amanda (DW Founder), July 23, 2009
Ah, why I surround myself with "experts." So, Kathy, you can't get a fixed rate HELOC?
Written by Kathy Ivens, July 23, 2009
Amanda - I can't say you can't get a fixed rate HELOC because I haven't called every bank. Generally, a LOC is a floating rate because the "rules" are different from a mortgage or a loan. Mainly, mortgages and loans require both a principal and interest payment, most LOCs don't require anything beyond the interest - unless the collateral against which the LOC is given is in trouble (if your house is the collateral and your mortgage company forcloses, the HELOC is going to "call" the principal. Also, irrespective of interest rates, remember that a HELOC affects your credit history - the "H" and the "E" stand for Home and Equity -- and the HELOC is recorded just like a mortgage against your address. If you have a $400,000 home with a $300,000 mortgage and then you take an $80,000 HELOC, your equity is almost nil, and doesn't look good when you go to buy a car, or try to negotiate some other type of financial transaction. If you have a business that's doing well, you can often get a business LOC without having to incur a lien against your residence.
Written by RB @ RichBy30RetireBy40, July 25, 2009
I definitely don't think you should use your HELOC to pay for a new kitchen. Just pay for it in cash. What you can and should do, is use your entire HELOC to pay down the Principal in your main mortgage which is surely higher than 3.25% right now.

Best,

RB
Written by RB @ RichBy30RetireBy40, July 25, 2009
Regarding using your HELOC to pay down your principal in your principal mortgage... the one thing to note is that your principal mortgage payment will NOT decrease. It's just the mix of principal/interest payments will increase towards the principal side. Your cash out flow will increase however, by the amount of your monthly HELOC payment.

In other words a 3.25% HELOC at $100,000 costs about $270/month. Use that to pay off your 5.25% mortgage principal, and if you still have a balance left say from $380,000 to $270,000... your payment would still be $2,250. However, before when only $600 of the $2,250 is going to principal, $1,000 of the $2250 is going to principal, and therefore you are saving $130/month. However, you are now paying $2,250 + $270 = $2,520/month.

So long as you can afford the increased cash out flow, you are doing well and this is a no brainer.

Best,

RB

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Written by RB @ RichBy30RetireBy40, July 28, 2009
Hi Ladies - Your your post inspired me to write a whole entry on the use of HELOCS. Hope y'all will find it useful.

Rgds,

RB

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