Doing the Math on a Roth IRA

By MP Dunleavey on Thursday January 07, 2010
This post is about investing, retirement


illu_redNow that we're all focused on Saving UP!, I want to address one of the great IRA puzzles: What is the difference between a regular IRA and a Roth?

Luckily, it's an easy and fun question to answer.

Let's imagine you have two cars: a Chevy Ira and a Ford Rothie. They are very special cars, designed to gain value over time.

You decide to put $5,000 a year into each one to keep it running smoothly ($5,000 is your limit for 2010 and you stick with it).

That's fine, because you know that in 30 years these cars will be considered valuable antiques. But…because of the contracts you signed for each car, there's a catch!

In 30 years, you can sell your vintage Chevy Ira, but you have to pay taxes on all the money you make. That's because, under a special clause, you were allowed to put in pre-tax dollars—i.e. all those years, you never paid tax on those $5,000 chunks.

Assuming that this whiz-bang car has gained immense value on the antique car market--say, 7% per year--your Chevy Ira is now worth about $340,000.

But because you owe taxes on it, you pocket only about $240,000.

Now, the Ford Rothie is different. You used after-tax money to pay those $5,000 chunks each year. So the tax is already paid. You pocket $340,000.

Obviously, there are some finer financial points to understand, but this covers a key one. For example: You can contribute to both a an IRA and a Roth, but your contribution limit is $5,000 combined for 2009 and 2010. For the purposes of our fable, we allowed $5K in each "car" so you could see how each performed.

Next up: What's a Roth conversion? Is it spiritual? If you are thinking of converting to a Roth, contact us and we'll walk you through it!
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written by MP Dunleavey , January 07, 2010
READERS-AN IMPORTANT CLARIFICATION. $5000 is the total 2009 & 2010 contribution limit for a Roth or a regular IRA--or both combined, IF you happen to have both. I should have made that clearer, where I say, "This is your limit."

In order to compare the two "cars", I put $5K into each. In reality, you would only put $5K into one (or $5K combined into both, if you have both).
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written by Aspiring Millionaire @ MyMillionairePlan.com , January 07, 2010
Great explanation. This might be one of the best explanations of the difference between an IRA and Roth IRA that I have ever seen.
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written by NT , January 07, 2010
Hold on -- confused. i thought that you don't have topay taxes on ANY IRA as long as you don't touch the $ until you are 60 or 65. once you hit that age, it's not taxable, right? only if you withdraw before that allotted time did i believe it to be taxable.
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written by Victoria , January 08, 2010
Thank you for this explanation. This clarifies it a bit when put into simple terms.
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written by Kenia , January 14, 2010
With the Ford Rothie, you still wouldn't pocket $340,000. You would pocket less, because the 7% was not earned on $5,000 chunks, it was on $5,000-minus-tax chunks.

But I have to say, that due to other financial details, most people (not all) would still pocket more money from a Roth than a Traditional IRA, just as you point out in the article. So I agree that the Ford Rothie would still be a better investment for most people (especially those who are many years away from retirement) than the Chevy Ira.
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written by Petunia , January 16, 2010
NT - you are thinking of the penalty. Making withdrawals from a traditional IRA after age 59.5 means no early withdrawal penalty, it does not mean no income tax. Withdrawals from traditional IRAs are indeed taxable, at any age.
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